Old School Wrestling: YMCA footage



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The NYAC used to ... ( 10 months ago by BooBooLane)
The NYAC used to field great teams at the Wilkes Open.
Does this tournament still exist? Are there any films of it?
it's ... ( 10 months ago by drew081682)
it's catch-as-catch-can wrestling without submissions. the terms freestyle and folkstyle didn't even exist then. and they are derivates of catch-as-catch-can.
Drew is correct on ... ( 10 months ago by cnhatton)
Drew is correct on all accounts. The term freestyle didn't become en vogue until the 1930s. Amateur catch-as-catch-can wrestling was the term used in international competition and the Olympics.
thank you nathan ... ( 10 months ago by drew081682)
thank you nathan hatton, one of the established authorities on wrestling history
I'll rephrase this. ... ( 10 months ago by Tcarr184)
I'll rephrase this. Catch wrestling with out the holds (catches) is not catch!
This film is from the New York Athletic Club. The NYAC has always been one of the leaders in the Olympic Movement. Therefore, since submissions have never been allowed in Olympic Wrestling it is not Catch as Catch can.
Folkstyle is the same as folk music. It is just the style of your culture. Judo, Karate, Greco Roman, Cumberland are all folkstyle.
I'll rephrase this. ... ( 10 months ago by Tcarr184)
I'll rephrase this. Catch wrestling with out the holds (catches) is not catch!
This film is from the New York Athletic Club. The NYAC has always been one of the leaders in the Olympic Movement. Therefore, since submissions have never been allowed in Olympic Wrestling it is not Catch as Catch can.
Folkstyle is the same as folk music. It is just the style of your culture. Judo, Karate, Greco Roman, Cumberland are all folkstyle.
No. This is ... ( 10 months ago by cnhatton)
No. This is amateur catch-as-catch-can wrestling. The term catch-as-catch-can predated the term freestyle. Subs were part of the PROFESSIONAL catch-as-catch-can style, though not the amateur. In 1908, catch was introduced to the modern Olympiad and was contested under five weight categories. I'm looking at the rulebook for the 1908 Olympiad catch tournament right now. It might not be what your vision of catch is, but that's what they called it back then.
I have hundreds, or ... ( 10 months ago by cnhatton)
I have hundreds, or perhaps thousands, of primary source documents pertaining to amateur catch-as-catch-can wrestlng prior to the 1930s, collected over a ten year period of research, and have written and published extensively on the subject. Not sure what else to say here...
you don't really ... ( 10 months ago by drew081682)
you don't really know what your talking about, hooking (or "hook wrestling" which more historically accurate) is only one aspect of catch-as-catch-can. please do a decent amount of historical research before commenting further. amateur wrestling was derivative of professional catch-as-catch-can with most of the submissions removed (though the double wristlock and some other holds were allowed to an extent for quite a while).
The Wilkes Open ... ( 10 months ago by Tcarr184)
The Wilkes Open does still exist!
Ease up there tiger! ( 10 months ago by Tcarr184)
Ease up there tiger!
Would pay a good $ ... ( 10 months ago by BooBooLane)
Would pay a good $ for film of the 1963 and 1964 matches; the chance of getting such a find is 1,000,000,000,000,000,000-1 against.
What do you have ... ( 10 months ago by BooBooLane)
What do you have circa 1960's on The Wilkes?
Nothing. I have ... ( 9 months ago by cnhatton)
Nothing. I have material up to the 1960s, but aside from AT show wrestling, I have little interest in professional catch-as-catch-can wrestling beyond c.1930. My amateur materials are likewise very spotty beyond that time. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
Why do you call ... ( 9 months ago by BooBooLane)
Why do you call amateur wrestling "professional."
I don't understand ... ( 9 months ago by cnhatton)
I don't understand the question. Please re-phrase.
Perhaps the answer ... ( 9 months ago by cnhatton)
Perhaps the answer to your question is in some of my comments below?? I don't recall having called amateur wrestling professional. Perhaps you were confused by my previous statments regarding my materials. To re-phrase:
My primary sources for amateur wrestling are spotty beyond the 1930s. I have nothing on the Wilkes.
With respect to professional wrestling (were you wanting info), I have little interest in it beyond the 1930s and likewise have limited primary material on it.
I am trying to find ... ( 9 months ago by Bobert11284)
I am trying to find the names of these wrestlers. I have an old copy of Time Life's This Fabulous Century that has a photograph of all of the wresters in this clip.
growing up watchin ... ( 1 month ago by johnvitowilson)
growing up watchin wrestling i have to ask is wrestling realy fake and scripted!!!??
wow, its actually ... ( 1 month ago by flameonme)
wow, its actually realistically like folkstyle/freestyle wrestling
folkstyle/freestyle ... ( 1 month ago by dakman29)
folkstyle/freestyle/greco-roman wrestling.. like this.. is real..
WWF or whatever is fake and scripted...
Brilliant footage, ... ( 1 month ago by HybridCrossTraining)
Brilliant footage, thanks for putting it up. I'm just discovering Billy Robinson and the old School Catch wrestlers. Absolutely brilliant.
REALLY AWESOME ... ( 4 weeks ago by kimberlismith1)
REALLY AWESOME FOOTAGE ! ! !
WWE is Scripted not ... ( 1 week ago by jb0609)
WWE is Scripted not fake. If it was fake the wrestlers would never get hurt.



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